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1 Applications of the Erdös-Rado Canonical Ramsey Theorem to Erdös-Type Problems William Gasarch-U of MD Sam Zbarsky- Mont. Blair. HS

2 EXAMPLES The following are known EXAMPLES of the kind of theorems we will be talking about. 1. If there are n points in R then there is a subset of size Ω(n 1/3 such that all distances between points are DIFFERENT. (KNOWN. If there are n points in R, no 3 collinear, then there is a subset of size Ω((log log n 1/186 such that all triangle areas are DIFFERENT. (OURS

3 An Erdös Problem Plus Plus Definition: 1. h,d (n is the largest integer so that the following happens: For all subsets of R d of size n there is a subset Y of size h,d (n such that all distances are DIFFERENT.. h a,d (n is the largest integer so that the following happens: For all subsets of R d of size n, no a on the same (a 1-hyperplane, there is a subset Y of size h a,d (n such that all a-volumes are DIFFERENT. 3. h a,d (α where ℵ 0 α ℵ 0 makes sense. 4. Erdös, others studied h,d (n. Little was known about h a,d (n.

4 BEST KNOWN RESULTS AND OURS BEST KNOWN RESULTS: 1. h,d (n = Ω(n 1/(3d. Torsten ( h, (n = Ω(n 1/3 / log n. Charalambides ( (AC h,d (α = α. Erdös ( (AC If α regular than h a,d (α = α. OUR RESULTS (FEB 013: 1. h,d (n Ω(n 1/(6d. (Uses Canonical Ramsey. h 3, (n Ω((log log n 1/186 (Uses Canonical Ramsey 3. h 3,3 (n Ω((log log n 1/396 (Uses Canonical Ramsey

5 OUR RECENT RESULTS OUR RECENT RESULTS: (With David Harris and Douglas Ulrich 1. h,d (n Ω(n 1 3d (Simple Proof!. h,d (n Ω(n 1 3d 3 (Simple Proof PLUS hard known result 1 3. h a,d (n Ω(n (a 1d (Uses Algebraic Geometry 4. (AC If α regular then h a,d (α = α (Simple Proof 5. (AD If α regular then h a,d (α = α

6 Standard Canonical Ramsey Definition Let COL : ( [n] ω. Let V [n]. V is homog if ( a < b, c < d[col(a, b = COL(c, d] V is min-homog if ( a < b, c < d[col(a, b = COL(c, d iff a = c] V is max-homog if ( a < b, c < d[col(a, b = COL(c, d iff b = d] V is rainbow if ( a < b, c < d[col(a, b = COL(c, d iff a = c and b = d] Theorem: (Lefmann-Rodl, 1995 ( k( n O(k log k, ( COL : ( [n] ω ( V, V = k, V is either homog, min-homog, max-homog, or rainbow.

7 Variant of Canonical Ramsey Definition: The set V is weak-homog if either ( a, b, c, d V [COL(a, b = COL(c, d] ( a < b, c < d V [a = c = COL(a, b = COL(c, d] ( a < b, c < d V [b = d = COL(a, b = COL(c, d] (Note: only one direction. Definition: WER(k 1, k is least n such that for all COL : ( [n] ω either have weak homog set of size k1 or rainbow set of size k. Theorem: WER(k 1, k k O(k 1.

8 Easy Geom Lemma Lemma: Let p 1,..., p n R d. Let COL be defined by COL(i, j = p i p j. Then COL has no weak homog set of size d + 3.

9 POINT 1: h,d (n Ω(n 1/(6d VIA CAN RAMSEY Theorem: For all d 1, h,d (n = Ω(n 1/(6d. Proof: Let P = {p 1,..., p n } R d. Let COL : ( [n] R be defined by COL(i, j = p i p j. k is largest integer s.t. n WER(d + 3, k. By VARIANT OF CANONICAL RAMSEY k = Ω(n 1/(6d. By the definition of WER 3 (d + 3, k there is either a weak homog set of size d + 3 or a rainbow set of size k. By GEOMETRIC LEMMA can t be weak homog case. Hence there must be a rainbow set of size k. THIS is the set we want!

10 POINT : h 3, (n Ω((log log n 1/186 VIA CAN RAMSEY Theorem: h 3, (n = Ω((log log n 1/186. Proof: Let P = {p 1,..., p n } R. Let COL : ( [n] 3 R be defined by COL(i, j, k = AREA(p i, p j, p k. k is largest integer s.t. n WER 3 (6, k. By VARIANT OF CANONCIAL RAMSEY n Ω((log log n 1/186. By the definition of WER 3 (6, k there is either a weak homog set of size 6 or a rainbow set of size k. By HARDER GEOMETRIC LEMMA can t be weak homog case. Hence there must be a rainbow set of size k. THIS is the set we want!

11 POINT 3: h 3,3 (n Ω((log log n 1/396 VIA CAN RAMSEY Theorem: h 3,3 (n = Ω((log log n 1/396. Proof: Let P = {p 1,..., p n } R 3. Let COL : ( [n] 3 R be defined by COL(i, j, k = AREA(p i, p j, p k. k is largest integer s.t. n WER 3 (13, k. By VARIANT OF CANONICAL RAMSEY n Ω((log log n 1/396. By the definition of WER 3 (13, k there is either a weak homog set of size 13 or a rainbow set of size k. By HARDER GEOMETRIC LEMMA can t be weak homog case. Hence there must be a rainbow set of size k. THIS is the set we want!

12 AUX RESULT: h,d 1 (n Ω(n 3d via MAXIMAL SETS ONWARD to NEW Results To prove h,d (n Ω(n 1 3d need result on spheres first. Definition h,d (n is the largest integer so that the following happens: For all subsets of S d of size n there is a subset Y of size (n such that all distances are DIFFERENT. h,d We prove Theorem For d 1, h,d Use induction on d. (n Ω(n 1 3d.

13 BASE CASE Base Case: d = 1. X S 1 (a circle. M is the maximal subset of X with all distances distinct. m = M. x X M. Either 1. ( u M( {u 1, u } ( M [ x u = u1 u ].. ( {u 1, u } ( M [ x u1 = x u ]. Map X M to M ( ( M M. Map is -to-1. ( ( X M M M M. M = Ω(n 1/3.

14 INDUCTION STEP X S d. M a a maximal subset of X. x X M. Either 1. ( u M( {u 1, u } ( M [ x u = u1 u ].. ( {u 1, u } ( M [ x u1 = x u ]. Map X M to M ( ( M M. Two cases based on param δ. Case 1: ( B co-domain[ map 1 (B n δ ]. Map is n δ -to-1. X M n δ M ( M ( M. Hence m Ω(n 1 δ 3. Case : ( B co-domain[ map 1 (B n δ ]. KEY: map 1 (B S d 1. By IH have set of size Ω(n δ/3(d 1. Take δ = d 1 d to obtain Ω(n 1/3d in both cases.

15 BETTER AUX RESULT: h,d 1 (n Ω(n 3d 3 Lemma (Charalambides 1. h,d (n Ω(n1/3.. h,d (n Ω(n 1/3. Theorem For d, h,d 1 (n Ω(n 3d 3. Only change is the BASE CASE. Start at d =. Use Charalambides result that h,d (n Ω(n1/3.

16 NEW RESULT: h,d (n Ω(n 1 3d 3 via MAXIMAL SETS Theorem For d, h,d (n Ω(n 1 3d 3. Induction on d. Base Case: Use Charalambides result that h,d (n Ω(n 1/3. Induction Step: Similar to that in lower bound for h,d (n.

17 NOTES ON THE PROOF I Contrast: h a,d (n Induction Step reduces S d to S d 1. h a,d (n Induction Step reduces R d to R d 1 OR S d 1. II KEY: In prove that h,d (n Ω(n 1 3d 3 we need that inverse image of map was S d 1 or R d 1. III Two views of result: h,d (n Ω(n 1 3d via self contained elementary techniques. h,d (n Ω(n 1 3d 3 via using hard known result.

18 h 3,d (n ATTEMPT Theorem Attempt: For all d, h 3,d (n LET S FIND OUT! Base Case: d =. X R, no 3 collinear. M is the maximal subset of X with all areas diff. m = M. x X M. Either ( {u 1, u } ( M ( {u3, u 4 } ( M AREA(x, u 1, u = AREA(x, u 3, u 4. ( {u 1, u } ( M ( {u3, u 4, u 5 } ( M 3 AREA(x, u 1, u = AREA(u 3, u 4, u 5. Map X M to ( M ( M ( M ( M 3. Need Nice Inverse Images. DO NOT HAVE THAT!

19 Definition of h a,d,r (n Definition: Let 1 a d + 1. Let r N. h a,d,r is the largest integer so that the following happens: For all varieties V of dimension d and degree r (in complex proj space, for all subsets of V of size n, no a points in the same (a 1-hyperplane, there is a subset Y of size h,d,r (n such that all a-volumes are DIFFERENT.

20 Theorem about h a,d (n Theorem Let 1 a d + 1. Let r N. h a,d,r (n Ω(n (The constant depends on a, d, r. Comments on the Proof 1. Proof uses Algebraic Geometry in Proj Space over C.. Cannot define Volume in Proj space! 3. Can define VOL(a, b, c VOL(d, e, f via difference of determinents (a homog poly being Proof uses Maximal subsets. Corollary Let 1 a d + 1. Let r N. h a,d (n Ω(n (The constant depends on a, d. 1 (a 1d. 1 (a 1d.

21 h a,d (α Under AC Theorem: (AC ℵ 0 α ℵ 0, α regular, then h a,d (α = α. We do h 3, case. X R, no 3 collinear. M is a maximal subset of X. m = M. x X M. Either ( {u 1, u } ( M ( {u3, u 4 } ( M AREA(x, u 1, u = AREA(x, u 3, u 4 ( {u 1, u } ( M ( {u3, u 4, u 5 } ( M 3 AREA(x, u 1, u = AREA(u 3, u 4, u 5 Map X M to ( M ( M ( M ( M 3. Assume M < α.

22 h a,d (α = α Cases of Proof Case 1: ( B co-domain[ map 1 (B < α]. Contradicts α regularity. Case : ( B co-domain[ map 1 (B = α]. KEY: Using Determinant Def of AREA, any such B is alg variety. Let B 1 be one such B. Can show B 1 X. Repeat procedure on B 1. If get Case 1 DONE. If not get alg variety B B 1 X, If process does not stop then have X B 1 B B 3 Contradicts Hilbert Basis Theorem.

23 h a,d (α Under AD Theorem: (AD+DC If ℵ 0 α ℵ 0 1 a d + 1, h a,d (α = α. Proof omitted for space. and α is regular then for all

24 Open Questions 1. Get better lower bounds and ANY non-trivial upper bounds on h a,d (n.. What is h a,d (α for α singular? What axioms will be needed to prove results (e.g., AC, AD, DC? 3. (DC Assume α = ℵ 0 is regular. We have AC h a,d (α = α. We have AD h a,d (α = α. What if we have neither AC or AD?

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