Studying low-mass stars in the VO and other things! (yet another change of title)
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1 Studying low-mass stars in the VO and other things! (yet another change of title) Amelia Bayo (transiting from MPIA to Valparaiso)!! Disclaimer: Blames are more likely on me good ideas, if any, most likely coming from Enrique Solano or Carlos Rodrigo
2 Outline From a hybrid-user perspective (very biased, and not pretending AT ALL to be complete): What kind of science cases have benefited HUGELY from the VO initiative? Where is ample room for improvement? Could I make some suggestions?
3 The happy endings Data related: CDS wonders vs pain of getting, for example, ApJS IOP tables! The sasmirala atlas Tool related (development) The final AVO science demo The birth of VOSA Tool related (exploitation) High proper motion object characterization ()
4 The happy endings Data related: CDS wonders vs pain of getting, for example, ApJS IOP tables! The sasmirala atlas Tool related (development) The final AVO science demo The birth of VOSA Tool related (exploitation) High proper motion object characterization ()
5 The happy endings Data related: CDS wonders vs pain of getting, for example, IOP tables The sasmirala atlas! Tool related (development) The final AVO science demo The birth of VOSA Tool related (exploitation) High proper motion object characterization ()
6 The happy endings Asmus et al 2014 Data related: CDS wonders vs pain of getting, for example, IOP tables The sasmirala atlas! Tool related (development) The final AVO science demo The birth of VOSA Tool related (exploitation) High proper motion object characterization ()
7 The happy endings Data related: CDS wonders vs pain of getting, for example, IOP tables The sasmirala atlas Tool related (development) The final AVO science demo! The birth of VOSA Tool related (exploitation) High proper motion object characterization ()
8 2005 AVO demo: the PPNe case Transition phase! AGB -> PN!! Multiple (and variable) components in their SEDs
9 2005 AVO demo: the PPNe case Distribution of identified sources in the GLMP catalog Garcia-Lario et al. (1997)
10 2005 AVO demo: the PPNe case sources with good quality MSX photometry 8-14 micron 3278 with SIMBAD class.! 155 known PNe or Post-AGB stars! Confusion with other type of sources
11 2005 AVO demo: the PPNe case If we harden our selection criteria:! b 2 degrees! [A]-[C] 0.7! [C]-[D] 0.7!! Large majority of PNe and Post-AGB stars...! and many new candidates!
12 2005 AVO demo: the PPNe case
13 2005 AVO demo: the PPNe case With the AVO prototype -> reach the same point in minutes...
14 With the AVO prototype -> reach the same point in minutes... And go further...
15 The happy endings Data related: CDS wonders vs pain of getting, for example, IOP tables The sasmirala atlas Tool related (development) The final AVO science demo The birth of VOSA (and its continuous development) The DUNES-VO tool Tool related (exploitation) High proper motion object characterization (UCSD, HSD), galaxy morphology,..
16 Warning! self-promotion rch a M! Cool objects: From SED fitting to age estimation. A. Bayo1, D. Barrado y Navascue s1, M. Morales Caldero n1, E. Solano1,2, C. Rodrigo1,2, R. Gutie rrez1,2, F. Allard3 1Laboratorio de Astrofı sica Espacial y Fı sica Fundamental (LAEFF-INTA), P.O , E Madrid, Spain 2Spanish Virtual Observatory, Spain 3Centre de Recherche Astronomique de Lyon (CRAL), Ecole Normale Supe rieure de Lyon, 69364, Lyon, France Abstract One of the typical tools to estimate physical parameters of almost any kind of astronomical object is to perform a fitting of synthetic spectra or photometry extracted from theoretical models to observational data. This process usually involves working with multiwavelength data, which is one of the cornerstones of the VO philosophy. From this kind of studies, when combining with theoretical isochrones one can even estimate ranges of ages. We present the results from a code designed to perform χ2 tests following two different methodologies to fit observational data: using grids of models (on their synthetic photometry), and combinations of blackbodies (including modified blackbodies). In particular, we use the models by the Lyon group. Some steps in this process can already be done in a VO enviroment, and the rest are in the process of development. We must note that this kind of surveys in star forming regions, clusters, etc. produce a huge amount of data, very tedious to analyse using the traditional methodology. Therefore this is an ideal example of the VO capabilities. Building the multiwavelength SEDs Searching non-spectroscopic data: Starting point: Your own data (photometry or spectra) Photometric catalogues, radial velocities measurements,!
17 1Laboratorio de Astrofı sica Espacial y Fı sica Fundamental (LAEFF-INTA), P.O , E Madrid, Spain 2Spanish Virtual Observatory, Spain 3Centre de Recherche Astronomique de Lyon (CRAL), Ecole Normale Supe rieure de Lyon, 69364, Lyon, France Abstract Warning! self-promotion One of the typical tools to estimate physical parameters of almost any kind of astronomical object is to perform a fitting of synthetic spectra or photometry extracted from theoretical models to observational data. This process usually involves working with multiwavelength data, which is one of the cornerstones of the VO philosophy. From this kind of studies, when combining with theoretical isochrones one can even estimate ranges of ages. We present the results from a code designed to perform χ2 tests following two different methodologies to fit observational data: using grids of models (on their synthetic photometry), and combinations of blackbodies (including modified blackbodies). In particular, we use the models by the Lyon group. Some steps in this process can already be done in a VO enviroment, and the rest are in the process of development. We must note that this kind of surveys in star forming regions, clusters, etc. produce a huge amount of data, very tedious to analyse using the traditional methodology. Therefore this is an ideal example of the VO capabilities. Building the multiwavelength SEDs Searching non-spectroscopic data: Starting point: Your own data (photometry or spectra) Photometric data in four bands. Photometric catalogues, radial velocities measurements, Simbad classification,... Searching spectroscopic data: via batch mode query to VOSED. wget save cookies cookies.txt load cookies cookies.txt keep-session-cookies search.jsp wget save cookies cookies.txt load cookies cookies.txt keep-session-cookies search.jsp?obj id=&ra= &de= &rad=0.01&ssap services=all&src uvbybeta=0&src 2mass=0&src hip=0&teo dalessio=on&submit =Submit+Query wget save cookies cookies.txt load cookies cookies.txt keep-session-cookies search.jsp?submitgetdata=retrieve+marked+data &filas ssap=all&filas stromgren=0&filas 2mass=0 -O object1.zip... Blackbody fittings (combinations, modified by different β)
18 via batch mode query to VOSED. search.jsp?submitgetdata=retrieve+marked+data &filas ssap=all&filas stromgren=0&filas 2mass=0 -O object1.zip Photometric data in four bands.... wget save cookies cookies.txt load cookies cookies.txt keep-session-cookies search.jsp wget save cookies cookies.txt load cookies cookies.txt keep-session-cookies search.jsp?obj id=&ra= &de= &rad=0.01&ssap services=all&src uvbybeta=0&src 2mass=0&src hip=0&teo dalessio=on&submit =Submit+Query wget save cookies cookies.txt load cookies cookies.txt keep-session-cookies search.jsp?submitgetdata=retrieve+marked+data &filas ssap=all&filas stromgren=0&filas 2mass=0 -O object1.zip... Warning! self-promotion Blackbody fittings (combinations, modified by different β) Filter selection. Blackbody fittings (combinations, modified by different β) Obtaining synthetic spectra. Filter selection. Obtaining synthetic spectra. Under development Synthetic photometry fittings Filter+Synthetic spectra = Synthetic photometry. Under development Synthetic photometry fittings Filter+Synthetic spectra = Synthetic photometry. log g, Teff log g, Teff Estimation of physical parameters. Comparison with theoretical isochrones and evolutionary tracks. Estimation of physical parameters. Comparison with theoretical isochrones and evolutionary tracks. log g = log M (M ) 2 log R(R ) log g! # = log M (M ) 2 log R(R )" F Model d(pc) = R (R ) F Obs!" # FModel d(pc) = R (R ) " #F 2 Obs FObs = MG σteff 4 gd " #2 FObs = MG σteff 4 gd
19 And VOSA came to life! Bayo et al. (2008)
20 And VOSA came to life! Bayo et al. (2008)
21 And VOSA came to life! Bayo et al. (2008)
22 And there was room for improvement Limited to / conceived for stars and brown dwarfs, what about older sources? and more massive? and science-fiction uhmm extragalactic studies? Reflected in the available collections of models: Kurucz, NextGen, COND, DUSTY and not many more Brute force fitting but no study of the relevance of the individual parameters to the fit No AV estimation Not design to work with a single object (input format) Variety of catalogs offered but you can always do better and also look for more than photometry No Isochrone interpolation, make it even more VO! Anything else in the wish-list?
23 VOSA 2: the new generation ~200 regular users, cited in ~ 50 papers Bayo et al. (2008, 2014a subm.)
24 VOSA 2: the new generation ~200 regular users, cited in ~ 50 papers Bayo et al. (2008, 2014a subm.)
25 VOSA 2: the new generation ~200 regular users, cited in ~ 50 papers Bayo et al. (2008, 2014a subm.)
26 VOSA 2: the new generation ~200 regular users, cited in ~ 50 papers Bayo et al. (2008, 2014a subm.)
27 VOSA 2: the new generation ~200 regular users, cited in ~ 50 papers Bayo et al. (2008, 2014a subm.)
28 VOSA 2: the new generation ~200 regular users, cited in ~ 50 papers Bayo et al. (2008, 2014a subm.)
29 VOSA 2: the new generation ~200 regular users, cited in ~ 50 papers Bayo et al. (2008, 2014a subm.)
30 VOSA 2: the new generation ~200 regular users, cited in ~ 50 papers Bayo et al. (2008, 2014a subm.)
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