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1 The Quantum Clock: a critical discussion on (space-)time Luciano Burderi (University of Cagliari) Tiziana di Salvo (University of Palermo) Problemi Attuali di Fisica Teorica (XX Edizione), Vietri sul Mare, April 11-16, 2014

2 Operationalism Percy Williams Bridgman ( ) The concept is defined on the measurements SR: time is the quantity measured by a light-clock (Einstein) GR: mass is defined by (a) Newton s Second Law of Motion (inertial) (b) Newton s law of universal gravitation (gravitational) Equivalence Principle (Einstein): (a) = (b) 2

3 Operational definition of time time a physical quantity that is measured by an appropriate clock Light Clock time measured with strictly periodic events mirror d photon D electrons in the metal δx λ C =ħ/(m e c) (see e.g. Garay 1995) Δt = D/c Δt MIN = ħ/(m e c 2 ) s (since D d δx λ C = cm ) shortest time interval ever measured: s (Schultze et al.2010) 3

4 Distance measurements using the multi-pulley tackle principle l l = c τ : l TOT = c T FLIGHT = n c τ n = T FLIGHT / τ l = c T FLIGHT / n σ l = c σ T / n σ l = c τ σ T / T FLIGHT (T FLIGHT ) -1 σ l = cm/ Hz = λ C (at 450 Hz laser frequency) achieved with the l interferometer = 40 m Caltech

5 Operational definition of time time a physical quantity that is measured by an appropriate clock Quantum Clock time measured with totally random events (e.g. Salecker & Wigner, 1958) decay products (particles or photons) detectors/counters (quantum efficiency 1) Counts: 14,392 radioactive matter 5

6 The Quantum Clock with radioactive substance Completely random process: a statistical process whose probability of occurrence is constant (independent of time) dp = λ dt Radioactive decay: dn = λn dt (where λ -1 = τ PART ) Assume: Δt << τ PART Number of expected decays in the interval Δt: ΔN Δt = λn Δt Fluctuations with Poissonian statistics: σ ΔN = (λn Δt) 1/2 Quantum Clock working principle: compute time by counting the decays Δt = ΔN Δt / (λn) relative error in time = relative error in number of decays σ Δt / Δt = ε = σ ΔN / ΔN Δt = (λn Δt) -1/2 = 1 / (ΔN Δt ) 1/2 1 ΔN Δt = 1/ε 2 Mass of the Quantum Clock: M = N m PART Energy of the decaying particle: E PART = m PART c 2 N = M/m PART Δt = (m PART c 2 )/ (ε 2 λmc 2 ) = E PART / (ε 2 λmc 2 ) = (E PART τ PART ) / (ε 2 Mc 2 ) 6

7 The Quantum Clock and Quantum Mechanics Heisenberg uncertainty relation between the energy and the duration of a phenomenon: δe δt ħ/2 Asssume (for simplicity) that the radioactive substance is destroyed in the decay (e.g. π 0 2γ). The whole energy of the particle is involved and therefore: E PART δe The decay time must be measurable and therefore: E PART τ PART ħ/2 τ PART δt Δt = (E PART τ PART ) / (ε 2 Mc 2 ) ħ / (2ε 2 Mc 2 ) (compare to Salecker & Wigner 1958, and Ng & van Dam 2003) 7

8 The Quantum Clock and General Relativity To let the decaying particle escape and be detected the size of the Quantum Clock must be larger than its Schwarzschild Radius (Hoop Conjecture, Thorne, 1972): Therefore: Δr R SCH = 2GM/c 2 1/M 2G/(c 2 Δr) see Amelino-Camelia (1995) for a lower bound in the uncertainty for the measurement of a distance, in which this condition is included. Therefore, the Quantum Clock equation is: Δt ħ/(2ε 2 Mc 2 ) Għ/(ε 2 c 4 Δr) Finally, since at least one decay occurred, ε = 1 / (ΔN Δt ) 1/2 1, and therefore we get the new Space-Time Uncertainty Relation: Δr Δt Għ/c 4 8

9 Uncertainty relations proposed in the literature (see Hossenfel 2012 review) 1) The Salecker Wigner limit (1958) (see e.g. Camelia 1999): Δr [ħt OBS (1/M BODIES + 1/M DEVICE )/2] 1/2 uncertainty on the distance of two bodies of total mass M BODIES with a device of mass M DEVICE operating over a time such that r = c T OBS /2 2) The Fundamental-Length Hypotheses (Mead 1964, 1966): Δr (Għ/c 3 ) 1/2 3) The Generalized Uncertainty Principle (see. e.g. Capozziello et al. 1999): Δr ħ/(2 Δp) + (α/c 3 ) G Δp 4) In String Theory Yoneya (1987, 1989, 1997) proposed: ΔX l cδt l S 2 similar to the uncertainty relation proposed above (see also Doplicher et al. 1995), although: a) l S is a free parameter of the theory (sometimes identified with the Planck length). b) the proposed relation is speculative and hence rather vague yet (Yoneya). 5) Space-Time Uncertainty Principle (this work Phys. Rev. D, submitted): Δr Δt Għ/c 4 demostrated by means of a Gedankenexperiment 9

10 The Quantum Clock and Special Relativity In SR true temporal and spatial intervals are defined by a combined measure of space and time: true temporal intervals: TIMELIKE intervals measured at the same place (Δr 0) true spatial intervals: SPACELIKE intervals measured at the same time (Δt 0) Generalized true temporal interval: any TIMELIKE interval with cδt Δr Generalized true spatial interval: any SPACELIKE interval with Δr cδt We represent space and time intervals in a space-time intervals diagram. We choose the space and time units in order to have c = 1, or cδt as the ordinate. In this representation the bisector defines the null intervals, separating the TIMELIKE intervals, above the bisector, from the SPACELIKE intervals, below. The extremal relation Δr cδt = Għ/c 3 is an hyperbola in the space-time diagram. Asymptotes: Δr axis and cδt axis. Vertex at: Δr VERTEX = cδt VERTEX = (Għ/c 3 ) 1/2 Planck Length c Planck Time 10

11 The Uncertainty Relation and the space-time diagram for the intervals TIMELIKE INTERVALS Δr = cδt cδt Δr cδt = Għ/c 3 Δt MIN = (Għ/c 5 ) 1/2 SPACELIKE INTERVALS Δr MIN = (Għ/c 3 ) 1/2 Δr 11

12 The Quantum Clock and Special Relativity The following can be deduced: I) TIMELIKE INTERVALS: Δt MIN = (Għ/c 5 ) 1/2 Planck Time II) SPACELIKE INTERVALS: Δr MIN = (Għ/c 3 ) 1/2 Planck Length III) The Uncertainty Relation is invariant under Lorentz Transformation since: Δr = γ -1 Δr (Lorentz contraction) Δt = γ Δt (time dilation) γ = (1 (v/c) 2 ) -1/2 (Lorentz factor) 12

13 The Quantum Clock with radioactive substance: feasibility for an advanced civilization Decaying substance 7 H (1 proton + 6 neutrons, Gurov et al. 2004)) m PART 7 m PROTON τ PART s Asssume: a) Δt = 0.1 τ PART (Δt << τ PART ) b) σ Δt = 0.1 t PLANCK (to test below the Planck scale in a SPACELIKE interval) We found: σ Δt / Δt = σ ΔN / ΔN Δt = [λn Δt] -1/2 = [τ PART /(N Δt)] -1/2 Therefore: (0.1 t PLANCK )/(0.1 τ PART ) = [τ PART /(N 0.1 τ PART )] 1/2 t PLANCK /τ PART = (10 /N)1/2 N = 10 (τ PART /t PLANCK ) 2 = 10 ( s/ s )2 = M CLOCK = N 7 m PROTON = g = M EARTH 13

14 The Quantum Clock with Blackbody Radiation: the BlackBody Clock Consider a spherical box of radius R where a small (negligible) amount of matter is in equilibrium with an electromagnetic radiation field at a temperature T. L = 4πR 2 σ B T 4 ; σ B = ac/4; a = (8π 5 k 4 )/(15c 3 h 3 ); <hν> = 3kT; E BB = M BB c 2 = (4/3)πR 3 at 4 dn PH /dt = (4πR 2 σ B T 4 )/(3kT) = [(4/3)πR 3 at 4 ] [c/(4rkt)] = M BB c 2 [c/(4rkt)] The number of photons detected in the time Δt is ΔN PHOTΔt Poisson statistics holds, therefore: ε = σ Δt / Δt = σ ΔN / ΔN PHOTΔt = (ΔN PHOTΔt ) -1/2 or ΔN PHOTΔt = ε -2 ΔN PHOTΔt = Δt dn PH /dt = ε -2 Δt = 1/(ε 2 M BB c 2 ) (4RkT/c) (as before if: E PART τ PART 4RkT/c) But (4RkT/c) = (4/3) (R/c) (3kT) = (4/3) R (<hν>/c) = (4/3) R <p PHOT > Since (<p PHOT >) (δ<p PHOT >) and R = δr we have R (<p PHOT >) δr (δ<p PHOT >) ħ/2 Therefore: Δt = 1/(ε 2 M BB c 2 ) (4RkT/c) 1/(ε 2 M BB c 2 ) (4/3) ħ/2 Δt (2/3) ħ/(ε 2 M BB c 2 ) and inserting the GR constraint, 1/M BB 2G/(c 2 Δr) ΔrΔt (4/3) Għ/(ε 2 c 4 ) Dropping ε -2 >1, we finally get ΔrΔt (4/3) Għ/c 4 which is the uncertainty relation again. 14

15 The extreme Quantum Clock: the Hawking Clock This is a BlackBody Clock which uses Hawking-Beckenstein radiation emitted from the event Horizon of a Black Hole. dn PH /dt = (4πR BH2 σ B T BH4 )/(3kT BH ) = (4πσ B /3k) R BH2 T BH 3 where: R BH = 2GM BH /c 2 ; T BH = ħc 3 /(8πkGM BH ) Consider as before Δt = (dn PH /dt ε 2 ) -1 and Δr R BH we get: Δt Δr R BH / (dn PH /dt ε 2 ) = ε -2 (3k/4πσ B ) (R BH T BH3 ) -1 = ε -2 (GM BH ) 2 /c 5 For the Hawking Clock the minimum occurs for the smallest Black Hole mass. This Black Hole radiates Hawking-Beckenstein radiation with <E PART > = 3kT BH At the end of the evaporation process we must have <E PART > = 3kT BH M MIN c 2 This gives: M MIN = (3/8π) 1/2 (ħc/g) 1/2 = (3/8π) 1/2 m PLANCK Inserting the relation above into Δt Δr ε -2 (GM MIN ) 2 /c 5, we get: ΔrΔt ( /π) ε -2 (Għ/c 4 ) Dropping ε -2 >1, we finally get ΔrΔt ( /π) Għ/c 4 which confirms the uncertainty relation again 15

16 The new Uncertainty Principle and the Minkowski metric Δs 2 cδt Δs 2 = 0 Δr 16

17 Conclusions by means of a Gedankenexperiment with a Quantum Clock, based on random rather than periodic events, we propose a new uncertainty principle: Δr Δt Għ/c 4 the principle is quite general being a necessary consequence of the very first principles of QM (Heisenberg Uncertainty Relations) and of GR (the formation of an Event Horizon for sufficiently high densities) when combined with the constrain imposed by SR, the new uncertainty principle gives: Δt MIN = (Għ/c 5 ) 1/2 Δr MIN = (Għ/c 3 ) 1/2 the principle is invariant in SR (GR, Schwarzschild?) the principle makes Space and Time non-commuting quantities (starting point for Quantum Gravity?) if, below the Plank scale, space-time has no meaning, Gravity, which is a curvature of space-time, could vanish at those scales (no singularity?) we discussed two similar albeit different clocks for which the new uncertainty principle holds 17

18 That s all Folks! 18

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