Heuristics for the growth of Mordell-Weil ranks in big extensions of number fields

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Heuristics for the growth of Mordell-Weil ranks in big extensions of number fields Barry Mazur, Harvard University Karl Rubin, UC Irvine Banff, June 2016 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 1 / 37

Growth of ranks in cyclic extensions Fix an elliptic curve E over a number field K. Question As L runs through abelian extensions of K, how often is rank(e(l)) > rank(e(k))? Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 2 / 37

Growth of ranks in cyclic extensions Fix an elliptic curve E over a number field K. Question As L runs through abelian extensions of K, how often is rank(e(l)) > rank(e(k))? By considering the action of Gal(L/K) on E(L) Q, it is enough to consider the case where L/K is cyclic. General philosophy: it s hard to find L with E(L) 6= E(K). For example, suppose L/K is cyclic of degree p, with a large prime p. The representation theory of Q[Gal(L/K)] shows that rank(e(l)) > rank(e(k)) =) rank(e(l)) rank(e(k)) + (p 1). Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 2 / 37

Growth of ranks in cyclic extensions Let f L/K denote the (finite part of the) conductor of L/K, and define M d (X) :=#{L/K cyclic of degree d : Nf L/K < X}, N d (X) :=#{L/K cyclic of degree d : Nf L/K < X and E(L) 6= E(K)}. Conjecture (David-Fearnley-Kisilevsky) If K = Q then: 1 log N 2 (X) log(x) (follows from standard conjectures), 2 log N 3 (X) 1 2 log(x), 3 log N 5 (X) =o(log(x) but N 5 (X) is unbounded, 4 N p (X) is bounded if p is a prime, p 7. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 3 / 37

Growth of ranks in cyclic extensions Let f L/K denote the (finite part of the) conductor of L/K, and define M d (X) :=#{L/K cyclic of degree d : Nf L/K < X}, N d (X) :=#{L/K cyclic of degree d : Nf L/K < X and E(L) 6= E(K)}. Conjecture (David-Fearnley-Kisilevsky) If K = Q then: 1 log N 2 (X) log(x) (follows from standard conjectures), 2 log N 3 (X) 1 2 log(x), 3 log N 5 (X) =o(log(x) but N 5 (X) is unbounded, 4 N p (X) is bounded if p is a prime, p 7. If K = Q and p is prime, then log M p (X) log(x). Motivation for the conjecture is BSD combined with random matrix theory predictions for the vanishing of twisted L-functions. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 3 / 37

Growth of ranks: algebraic approach Theorem (M-R) Fix an elliptic curve E/K. For every prime p and every n > 0, there are infinitely many cyclic extensions L/K of degree p n such that E(L) =E(K). (We expect E(L) =E(K) for almost all L/K, when p > 2.) Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 4 / 37

Growth of ranks: algebraic approach Theorem (M-R) Fix an elliptic curve E/K. For every prime p and every n > 0, there are infinitely many cyclic extensions L/K of degree p n such that E(L) =E(K). (We expect E(L) =E(K) for almost all L/K, when p > 2.) Idea of proof: If [L : K] =p, then the Weil restriction Res L/K E decomposes as Res L/K E A L E with an abelian variety A L of dimension p 1. Then rank(e(l)) = rank(res L/K (K)) = rank(a L (K)) + rank(e(k)). Choosing L carefully to have prescribed ramification, we can ensure that Sel p (A L /K) =0, so rank(a L (K)) = 0, so rank(e(l)) = rank(e(k)). Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 4 / 37

Growth of ranks: analytic approach Question As L runs through cyclic extensions of K, how often is rank(e(l)) > rank(e(k))? Using the Birch & Swinnerton-Dyer conjecture, this is equivalent to the following: Question As runs through characters of Gal( K/K), how often is L(E,,1) =0? When K = Q (which we assume until further notice), this leads to a study of modular symbols. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 5 / 37

Modular symbols Definition For r 2 Q, define the modular symbol [r] E by [r] E := 1 2 2 i E Z r i1 f E (z)dz + 2 i E Z i1 r f E (z)dz where f E is the modular form attached to E, and E is the real period. Then [r] E 2 Q, with denominators bounded depending only on E(Q) tors. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 6 / 37

Modular symbols Definition For r 2 Q, define the modular symbol [r] E by [r] E := 1 2 2 i E Z r i1 f E (z)dz + 2 i E Z i1 r f E (z)dz where f E is the modular form attached to E, and E is the real period. Then [r] E 2 Q, with denominators bounded depending only on E(Q) tors. Theorem For every primitive even Dirichlet character of conductor m, X a2(z/mz) (a)[a/m] E = Here ( ) is the Gauss sum. ( )L(E,, 1) E. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 6 / 37

Modular symbols L(E,,1) =0 () X We want to know how often this happens. a2(z/mz) (a)[a/m] E = 0. ( ) We will try to understand the distribution of the modular symbols [a/m] E, and use that to predict how often the right-hand side of ( ) vanishes. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 7 / 37

Modular symbols L(E,,1) =0 () X We want to know how often this happens. a2(z/mz) (a)[a/m] E = 0. ( ) We will try to understand the distribution of the modular symbols [a/m] E, and use that to predict how often the right-hand side of ( ) vanishes. Our philosophy is that the modular symbols should be randomly distributed... except when they re not (i.e., except for certain relations that we understand). Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 7 / 37

Modular symbols Let N be the conductor of E. For every r 2 Q, modular symbols satisfy the relations: [r] E =[r + 1] E since f E (z) =f E (z + 1) [r] E =[ r] E by definition Atkin-Lehner relation: if w E is the global root number of E, and aa 0 N 1 (mod m), then [a 0 /m] E = w E [a/m] E Hecke relation: if a prime ` - N and a` is the `-th Fourier coefficient of f E, then a`[r] E =[`r] E + P` 1 i=0 [(r + i)/`] E Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 8 / 37

Modular symbols We begin by gathering data on modular symbols. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 9 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Histogram of {[a/m] E : E = 11A1, m = 10007, a 2 (Z/mZ) } Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 10 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Histogram of {[a/m] E : E = 11A1, m = 10007, a 2 (Z/mZ) } Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 10 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Histogram of {[a/m] E : E = 11A1, m = 100003, a 2 (Z/mZ) } Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 10 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Histogram of {[a/m] E : E = 11A1, m = 100003, a 2 (Z/mZ) } Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 10 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Histogram of {[a/m] E : E = 11A1, m = 1000003, a 2 (Z/mZ) } Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 10 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Histogram of {[a/m] E : E = 11A1, m = 1000003, a 2 (Z/mZ) } Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 10 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Histogram of {[a/m] E : E = 11A1, m = 10000019, a 2 (Z/mZ) } Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 10 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Histogram of {[a/m] E : E = 11A1, m = 10000019, a 2 (Z/mZ) } Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 10 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols This looks like a normal distribution. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 11 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols This looks like a normal distribution. How does the variance depend on m? Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 11 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Plot of variance vs. m, for E = 11A1: Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 12 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Plot of variance vs. m, for E = 11A1: the upper line is the m s prime to 11 the lower line is the m s divisible by 11 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 12 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Plot of variance vs. m, for E = 45A1: the 6 colors correspond to the 6 possible gcd s (m, 45) Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 12 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols It looks like the variance in the distribution of the [a/m] E converges to E log(m)+ E,(m,N) where the slope E depends only on E, and and the gcd (m, N). E,(m,N) depends on both E Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 13 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols It looks like the variance in the distribution of the [a/m] E converges to E log(m)+ E,(m,N) where the slope E depends only on E, and and the gcd (m, N). E,(m,N) depends on both E What is this constant E? Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 13 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Table of E, where the variance E log(m)+ E,(m,N) : E E E E 11A1 0.366 1058A1 1.07 14A1 0.108 1058B1 3.38 15A1 0.180 1058C1 0.060 17A1 0.189 1058D1 95.4 19A1 0.290 1058E1 0.235 20A1 0.043 1059A1 0.790 21A1 0.123 1060A1 0.156 24A1 0.062 1062A1 0.593 26A1 0.206 1062B1 0.842 26B1 0.038 1062C1 0.173 27A1 0.092 1062D1 1.05 30A1 0.038 1062E1 0.037 32A1 0.040 1062F1 11.3 33A1 0.220 1062G1 0.250 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 14 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Table of E, where the variance E log(m)+ E,(m,N) : E E E E 11A1 0.366 1058A1 1.07 14A1 0.108 1058B1 3.38 15A1 0.180 1058C1 0.060 17A1 0.189 1058D1 95.4 19A1 0.290 1058E1 0.235 20A1 0.043 1059A1 0.790 21A1 0.123 1060A1 0.156 24A1 0.062 1062A1 0.593 26A1 0.206 1062B1 0.842 26B1 0.038 1062C1 0.173 27A1 0.092 1062D1 1.05 30A1 0.038 1062E1 0.037 32A1 0.040 1062F1 11.3 33A1 0.220 1062G1 0.250 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 14 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Among all isogeny classes with conductor between 1000 and 1100: largest E largest modular degrees E E E mod. degree 1015B1 26.0 1012A1 13776 1017G1 15.2 1014E1 6720 1026N1 18.4 1015B1 18720 1045B1 64.8 1020F1 6720 1050N1 35.2 1023A1 6840 1058D1 95.4 1026D1 8568 1062F1 11.3 1050N1 11400 1078B1 33.2 1058D1 19320 1085F1 38.3 1062F1 12672 1089I1 14.4 1085F1 13056 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 15 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Among all isogeny classes with conductor between 1000 and 1100: largest E largest modular degrees E E E mod. degree 1015B1 26.0 1012A1 13776 1017G1 15.2 1014E1 6720 1026N1 18.4 1015B1 18720 1045B1 64.8 1020F1 6720 1050N1 35.2 1023A1 6840 1058D1 95.4 1026D1 8568 1062F1 11.3 1050N1 11400 1078B1 33.2 1058D1 19320 1085F1 38.3 1062F1 12672 1089I1 14.4 1085F1 13056 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 15 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols Back to E = 11A1, histogram of [a/m] E / p.366 log(m)+.333 for 10 6 random values of a/m with m prime to 11 and 0 < m < 10 16 : The red curve corresponds to a normal distribution with variance 1. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 16 / 37

Distribution of modular symbols OK, it seems pretty convincing that, properly normalized, the [a/m] E satisfy a normal distribution with variance 1. What does this tell us about the vanishing of L(E, character?,1), for a Dirichlet Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 17 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients Suppose L/Q has conductor m, so there is a canonical surjection L :(Z/mZ) = Gal(Q(µm )/Q) Gal(L/Q). Define c g := X L := a2 1 [a/m] E for g 2 Gal(L/Q), X L (g) c g g 2 Q[Gal(L/Q)]. g2gal(l/q) Then for all : Gal(L/Q),! C, ( L )= ( )L(E,, 1) E. We want to know how often this vanishes. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 18 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients If [L : Q] =d, then each -coefficient c g is a sum of '(m)/d modular symbols. We (think we) know how the modular symbols are distributed, but are they independent? If so, then the c g q ( E log(m)+ E,(m,N) )('(m)/d) should satisfy a normal distribution with variance 1. There are two ways to get data to test this: choose d large (so there are many data points) and try one or more m, choose any d, and try many different m. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 19 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, large d E = 11A1, m = 25035013, L is the field of degree 5003 in Q(µ m ): The red curve is the expected normal distribution. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 20 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, large d E = 11A1, m = 49063009, L is the field of degree 7001 in Q(µ m ): The red curve is the expected normal distribution. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 20 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, d = 3 E = 11A1, m 1 (mod 3), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =3, 10000 < m < 20000: The red curve is the expected normal distribution. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 21 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, d = 3 E = 11A1, m 1 (mod 3), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =3, 20000 < m < 40000: The red curve is the expected normal distribution. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 21 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, d = 3 E = 11A1, m 1 (mod 3), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =3, 40000 < m < 80000: The red curve is the expected normal distribution. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 21 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, d = 3 E = 11A1, m 1 (mod 3), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =3, 80000 < m < 160000: The red curve is the expected normal distribution. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 21 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, d = 3 E = 11A1, m 1 (mod 3), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =3, 160000 < m < 320000: The red curve is the expected normal distribution. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 21 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, d = 3 E = 11A1, m 1 (mod 3), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =3, 320000 < m < 640000: The red curve is the expected normal distribution. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 21 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, d = 3 E = 11A1, m 1 (mod 3), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =3, 10000 < m < 640000: The red curve is the expected normal distribution. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 21 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, d = 3 Doesn t look normal when d = 3. Fix m prime, m 1 (mod 3), cubic L Q(µ m ), H (Z/mZ) the subgroup of cubes, Then the coefficients of L are the three sums c b := a2bh[a/m] X E, b 2 (Z/mZ) /H. The pictures seem to say that the [a/m] E are not independently distributed among these three sums. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 22 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, d = 3 c b := X a2bh[a/m] E, b 2 (Z/mZ) /H. Recall that if aa 0 N 1 (mod m), then [a/m] E = w E [a 0 /m] E. Therefore c bn = w E c b 1 N. So there are really only 2 coefficients, and one of them is zero if w E = 1. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 23 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 3 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 5 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 7 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 11 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 13 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 17 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 23 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 31 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 41 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 53 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 97 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients, small d E = 11A1, m 1 (mod d), L Q(µ m ), [L : Q] =d, d = 293 Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 24 / 37

Oversimplified picture Suppose L/Q is a cyclic extension of degree d and conductor m. Very roughly, L lies in a cube of side p E log(m)'(m)/d in the d-dimensional lattice Z[Gal(L/Q)]. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 25 / 37

Oversimplified picture Suppose L/Q is a cyclic extension of degree d and conductor m. Very roughly, L lies in a cube of side p E log(m)'(m)/d in the d-dimensional lattice Z[Gal(L/Q)]. Suppose : Gal(L/Q) µ d is a faithful character. Then L(E,,1) =0 () L 2 ker( : Z[Gal(L/Q)]! C). That kernel is a sublattice of codimension '(d), so we might expect the probability that L(E,,1) =0 should be about C '(d) p E log(m)'(m)/d for some constant C E. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 25 / 37

Oversimplified picture Suppose L/Q is a cyclic extension of degree d and conductor m. Very roughly, L lies in a cube of side p E log(m)'(m)/d in the d-dimensional lattice Z[Gal(L/Q)]. Suppose : Gal(L/Q) µ d is a faithful character. Then L(E,,1) =0 () L 2 ker( : Z[Gal(L/Q)]! C). That kernel is a sublattice of codimension '(d), so we might expect the probability that L(E,,1) =0 should be about C '(d) p E log(m)'(m)/d for some constant C E. This goes to zero very fast as d and m grow. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 25 / 37

Oversimplified picture This isn t quite right: The previous argument ignores the Atkin-Lehner relation, which pairs up the coefficients and forces L into a sublattice of Z[Gal(L/Q)] with rank approximately d/2. Taking this into account changes the expectation to C E d '(d)/4. log(m)'(m) Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 26 / 37

Oversimplified picture This isn t quite right: The previous argument ignores the Atkin-Lehner relation, which pairs up the coefficients and forces L into a sublattice of Z[Gal(L/Q)] with rank approximately d/2. Taking this into account changes the expectation to C E d '(d)/4. log(m)'(m) The distribution of the (normalized) L is not uniform in a box, and we don t fully understand what the correct distribution is. Fortunately, for applications, it doesn t seem to matter very much what the distribution is, only that there is one. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 26 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients Fix d and let G := µ d. Suppose L/Q is a cyclic extension of degree d. Suppose (only to avoid dealing with lots of cases) d is odd, the conductor m of L/Q is prime to the conductor N of E, the root number w E =+1. For every faithful character L, := : Gal(L/Q)! G, define ( L (N) (d+1)/2 L ) p ( E log(m)+ E,1 )('(m)/d) = X g2g c L,,g g 2 R[G] which has been normalized for size and so that the Atkin-Lehner relation gives c L,,g = c L,,g 1. Then L, 2 R[G] + where the superscript + denotes the space fixed under g 7! g 1. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 27 / 37

Distribution of -coefficients Define S(X) :={(L, ): conductor(l/q) < X, : Gal(L/Q)! G}. Questions As X!1, 1 for each g 2 G, does the distribution of the c L,,g 2 R for (L, ) 2 S(X) converge to a bounded function f g? 2 is the bound on f g independent of d? 3 does the distribution of the L, 2 R[G] + for (L, ) 2 S(X) converge to Q {g,g 1 } f g? Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 28 / 37

Distribution of s Questions and Remarks As X!1, 1 for each g 2 G, does the distribution of the c L,,g 2 R for (L, ) 2 S(X) converge to a bounded function f g? The data make this look plausible. 2 is the bound on f g independent of d? Since the f g seem to get closer and closer to a fixed normal distribution as d grows, this seems plausible too. 3 does the distribution of the L, 2 R[G] + for (L, ) 2 S(X) converge to Q {g,g 1 } f g? The third question is equivalent to asking that the coefficients be independent. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 29 / 37

Distribution of s Questions and Remarks As X!1, 1 for each g 2 G, does the distribution of the c L,,g 2 R for (L, ) 2 S(X) converge to a bounded function f g? The data make this look plausible. 2 is the bound on f g independent of d? Since the f g seem to get closer and closer to a fixed normal distribution as d grows, this seems plausible too. 3 does the distribution of the L, 2 R[G] + for (L, ) 2 S(X) converge to Q {g,g 1 } f g? The third question is equivalent to asking that the coefficients be independent. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 29 / 37

Distribution of s Questions and Remarks As X!1, 1 for each g 2 G, does the distribution of the c L,,g 2 R for (L, ) 2 S(X) converge to a bounded function f g? The data make this look plausible. 2 is the bound on f g independent of d? Since the f g seem to get closer and closer to a fixed normal distribution as d grows, this seems plausible too. 3 does the distribution of the L, 2 R[G] + for (L, ) 2 S(X) converge to Q {g,g 1 } f g? The third question is equivalent to asking that the coefficients be independent. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 29 / 37

Distribution of s Questions and Remarks As X!1, 1 for each g 2 G, does the distribution of the c L,,g 2 R for (L, ) 2 S(X) converge to a bounded function f g? The data make this look plausible. 2 is the bound on f g independent of d? Since the f g seem to get closer and closer to a fixed normal distribution as d grows, this seems plausible too. 3 does the distribution of the L, 2 R[G] + for (L, ) 2 S(X) converge to Q {g,g 1 } f g? The third question is equivalent to asking that the coefficients be independent. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 29 / 37

The heuristic If the answer to these questions is Yes, we get a heuristic estimate: Heuristic There is a constant C E, depending only on E, such that Prob[L(E, C E d,1) =0] apple log(m)'(m) '(d)/4 where d is the order of and m its conductor. This should hold for all of order greater than 2. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 30 / 37

Consequences of the heuristic Heuristic Prob[L(E,,1) =0] apple C E d log(m)'(m) '(d)/4. Example (d = 3) X Prob[L(E, order 3, conductor < X Example (d = 5) X Prob[L(E, order 5, conductor < X X 1,1) =0] (log(m)'(m)) p X. 1/2 m=2 X 1,1) =0] log X. log(m)'(m) m=2 These are consistent with the prediction of David-Fearnley-Kisilevsky. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 31 / 37

Consequences of the heuristic Heuristic Prob[L(E,,1) =0] apple C E d log(m)'(m) '(d)/4. Example (d = 7) X Prob[L(E, of order 7,1) =0] 1X m=2 1 < 1. (log(m)'(m)) 3/2 This is consistent with the prediction of David-Fearnley-Kisilevsky. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 32 / 37

Consequences of the heuristic Heuristic Prob[L(E,,1) =0] apple C E d log(m)'(m) '(d)/4. Proposition Suppose t : Z >0! R is a function, and t(d) X d : t(d)>1 X order d C E d log(m)'(m) t(d) log(d). Then converges. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 33 / 37

Consequences of the heuristic Heuristic Prob[L(E,,1) =0] apple C E d log(m)'(m) '(d)/4. Proposition Suppose t : Z >0! R is a function, and t(d) X d : t(d)>1 X order d C E d log(m)'(m) t(d) log(d). Then converges. Applying this with t(d) ='(d)/4 shows Heuristic X X Prob[L(E,,1) =0] converges. d : '(d)>4 order d Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 33 / 37

Consequences of the heuristic This leads to: Conjecture Suppose L/Q is an abelian extension with only finitely many subfields of degree 2, 3, or 5 over Q. Then for every elliptic curve E/Q, we expect that E(L) is finitely generated. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 34 / 37

Consequences of the heuristic This leads to: Conjecture Suppose L/Q is an abelian extension with only finitely many subfields of degree 2, 3, or 5 over Q. Then for every elliptic curve E/Q, we expect that E(L) is finitely generated. For example, these conditions hold when L is: the Ẑ-extension of Q, the maximal abelian `-extension of Q, for ` 7. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 34 / 37

Extensions and generalizations Extension to other base fields: Suppose now that K is a number field and E is an elliptic curve over K. In this case there can be characters of Gal( K/K) such that L(E,,1) vanishes because its root number is 1. If for all other we have Prob[L(E, C E d,1) =0] log(m )'(m ) '(d )/4 where d is the order of and m is the norm of its conductor, then we get a similar conclusion: Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 35 / 37

Extensions and generalizations Conjecture Suppose L/K is an abelian extension with only finitely many subfields of degree 2, 3, or 5. Then for every elliptic curve E/K, if we exclude those characters with root number 1, then we expect L(E,,1) =0 for only finitely many other characters of Gal(L/K). Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 36 / 37

Extensions and generalizations Conjecture Suppose L/K is an abelian extension with only finitely many subfields of degree 2, 3, or 5. Then for every elliptic curve E/K, if we exclude those characters with root number 1, then we expect L(E,,1) =0 for only finitely many other characters of Gal(L/K). Conjecture Suppose L/Q is an abelian extension with only finitely many subfields of degree 2, 3, or 5. Then for every elliptic curve E/L, we expect that E(L) is finitely generated. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 36 / 37

Extensions and generalizations Studying p-selmer: Instead of asking how often L(E,,1) =0, we can ask how often L(E,,1)/ E is divisible by (some prime above) p. By the Birch & Swinnerton-Dyer conjecture, this will tell us about the p-selmer group Sel p (E/L). It seems reasonable to expect that if the -coefficents c L,,g are not all the same (mod p), then they are equidistributed (mod p). Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 37 / 37

Extensions and generalizations Studying p-selmer: Instead of asking how often L(E,,1) =0, we can ask how often L(E,,1)/ E is divisible by (some prime above) p. By the Birch & Swinnerton-Dyer conjecture, this will tell us about the p-selmer group Sel p (E/L). It seems reasonable to expect that if the -coefficents c L,,g are not all the same (mod p), then they are equidistributed (mod p). For example, this leads to the following: Conjecture Let S be a finite set of rational primes, not containing p. Let L be the compositum of the cyclotomic Z`-extensions of Q for ` 2 S. If E is an elliptic curve over Q whose mod p representation is irreducible, then dim Fp Sel p (E/L) is finite. The heuristic does not predict finite p-selmer rank when S is infinite. Mazur & Rubin Heuristics for growth of Mordell-Weil Banff, June 2016 37 / 37