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Judgement Discussion of Cycle" by Università degli Studi Milano - Bicocca IV International Conference in memory of Carlo Giannini

Judgement Great contribution in the literature of NEWS and NOISE shocks: Barsky and Sims (2011, JME) and Blanchard, L Huillier, and Lorenzoni (2013, AER) " news shocks are the permanent productivity shocks that because of their gradual e ect on productivity, are largely information about future productivity rather than changes in current productivity. Noise shocks, by contrast, are shocks to the signal that are unrelated to changes in productivity. Ideally agents would ignore the noise shocks, but they are unable to fully distinguish between noise and news." [Krusell and Mckay, Economic Quarterly, 2010]

Judgement The paper proposes to achieve identi cation using dynamic rotations (dynamic identi cation) of the reduced form residuals in case of non-fundamentalness A contemporaneous linear combination of the VAR residuals cannot deliver the structural shock, but a dynamic combination (i.e. a combination of present and future residuals) can The structural shock are recovered as function of future reduced form ones, not current ones MAIN RESULTS: the "noisy news" (the real and the noise shocks together) explain more than half uctuations of GDP, consumption and investment

Judgement We assume that the potential output Real shock, Noise, Signal a t = a t 1 + ε t 1 (1) where ε t (REAL SHOCK) is a Gaussian, serially uncorrelated process a ecting the output with a one-period delay Consumers observe a noisy signal of ε t (REAL or NEWS SHOCK), the SIGNAL s t : where υ t (NOISE SHOCK) s t = ε t + υ t (2)

Learning Judgement at we can rewrite as: at s t where ut s t s t = L 0 1 1 = 1 Lσ 2 ε /σ 2 s 0 1 = L σ2 υ σ 2 s 1 1 L σ2 ε σ 2 s εt υ t ut s t! εt u t is the LEARNING SHOCK which represents the new information about past structural shocks υ t (3) (4) (5)

Judgement Di erent names for shocks: noise, news, real, noisy news, signal, learning, :-) Focus on MA representation in shocks and fundamentalness test :-) An identi cation strategy ad-hoc to use VAR in this topic :-) =) Future applications to medium scale DSGE models with a VARMA representation :-)))

Judgement Focus on MA representation in shocks and fundamentalness test :-) In Beaudry and Portier (2013)

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Judgement Di erent names for shocks: noise, news, real, noisy news, signal, learning, :-(

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Judgement Maybe we can identify ONLY the noise shock NOT a NOISY NEWS how?

Masolo and (2013) Judgement We combine the identi cation of noise shock with real-time data, using di erent vintages We focus on the economic implications using a simple VAR and the Impulse Responses We assume that early vintages of data are a NOISY version of the nal release MAIN RESULTS: Signi cant Responses of Output, Unemployment and Investment to a NOISE SHOCK suggest that revisions are important in the behavior of macro variables

Judgement Cholesky Identi cation Scheme in Data x 0 t = x f t + v t (6) xt 0 is the EARLY RELEASE, xt f is the FINAL RELEASE, v t = xt 0 xt f is a NOISE SHOCK We include two vintages of GDP growth and unemployment in a VAR and identify the noise shock as that shock which contemporaneously a ects the early release of data but not the latest. Our baseline speci cation: 2 4 y f t u f t y 0 t 3 2 5 = β 0 + β 1 4 yt f 1 ut f 1 yt 0 1 3 2 5 + C 4 ν 1 t ν 2 t ν 3 t 3 5 (7)

Cholesky Identi cation Scheme in Data Judgement Our identi cation strategy identi es νt 3 as the noise or revision shock. 2 0 3 C = 4 0 5 (8) C 33 Noise shocks are identi ed by the fact that they contemporaneously a ect only the early release of data As a result: ν 3 t? y f t 1, uf t 1, y 0 t 1, y f t, u f t

Impulse Response Functions Judgement

Impulse Response Functions Judgement

Discussion of Judgement Conclusions The paper is a FANTASTIC contribution!!!!

Judgement Noise vs News Mankiw and Shapiro (1986) and Aruoba (2008) Noise: the initial announcement is an observation of the nal series, measured with error. The revision is uncorrelated with the nal value but correlated with the data available when estimate is made News: the initial announcement is an e cient forecast which depends on all information. The revision is correlated with the nal value but uncorrelated with the data available when estimate is made

Judgement Setup Proposed state equation for a model with dispersed information (i.e. one in which additional information about the past is still relevant): x f t = A(L)x f t 1 + B(L)v t 1 + ε t (9) The nal release is assumed to be the variable set by agents in the model With the bene t of hindsight the information set of the econometrician is richer than that of model agents Main assumption: the early release for the current period is not available when agents make their decisions (hence v t does not show up in the law of motion)

Classical Noise Judgement x 0 t = A(L)x f t 1 + B(L)v t 1 + ε t + v t (10) The revision is orthogonal to the nal release Identi cation Assumption: the noise shock contemporaneously a ects the early but not the nal release

Judgement Data Quarterly vintages and quarterly observations of the Real GNP/GDP (ROUTPUT). We take the rst di erence logarithmic transformation, considering it as a quarterly (annualized) growth rate! Early and nal vintages Quarterly vintages and monthly observations of the Unemployment Rate (RUC). We transform our data from monthly to quarterly frequency considering the rst observation of the quarter All the series are taken from 1966:1 to 2006:4, considering the latest revision of 2011:3 Source: FED of Philadelphia

Impulse Response Functions Judgement

Impulse Response Functions Judgement

Variance Decomposition Judgement Percent Share of Output Growth Forecast Error Variance attributed to Noise Shocks 6 4 2 0 0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 Percent Share of Unemployment Forecast Error Variance attributed to Noise Shocks 8 6 4 2 0 0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16

Variance Decomposition: Comparison Judgement Output Growth Unemployment BQ SDN BQ SDN Supply 43.48 41.23 2.08 1.11 Demand 56.52 54.04 97.92 91.16 Noise n.a. 4.73 n.a. 7.73